By: Geneva_Queen on 12/15/09
All this over drugs. I wonder what makes people start with drugs, alcohol, and tobacco despite the warnings. Peer pressure? Depression? Low self esteem? It is a known fact that some people choose this route to hide other issues like depression or family problems. They choose to avoid treatment because they feel “I’m just fine, there’s nothing wrong with me”. However, if they stop using drugs, tobacco, or alcohol, they would go crazy. I know people who admit they have depression issues and choose to do nothing about it so they continue to drink. To anyone else who is reading this, what made you try your first cigarette, beer, or illegal drug? Even though you knew it was bad, you still tried it. Why?

By: atlascollapsed on 12/15/09
Reading how some people are continually harping on the fact of how bad drugs are and saying "I just don't get it" make me want to go bobbing for Vicodan in a vat of Jack Daniels while eating some special brownies. But I'm kinda weird like that.

By: secretsquirrel on 12/15/09
I smoked my first cigarette when I was 9 because I was clinically depressed. I was depressed because I was hopelessly addicted to alcohol and barbituates. When I was 11, I discovered sex while in a nicotine rehab center in New Jersey with my female counselor and eventually married her at the age of 16.
We had thirteen kids, all of whom are currently holding masters degrees they earned while in prison for drug convictions.
Now they support me and I spend my days here, sharing my life experiences in the hope that someone will see in my comments a ray of hope that they too can overcome the evils of tobacco.

By: Thinking_Outloud on 12/15/09
self-right⋅eous:

–adjective confident of one's own righteousness, esp. when smugly moralistic and intolerant of the opinions and behavior of others.

Yep, that is the definition I was looking for when I read the first comment. Self-righteous.

By: krazykat on 12/15/09
OMG. GQ is at it again. She's addicted to drama. Drama is like a drug. So that must mean that she deserves the same thing tory got!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: ridiculous on 12/15/09
GQ - You want answers? Google it - google testimonies... better yet go to a church in the minneapolis, st. paul area or go to the Teen Challenge website, better yet - here is the link - http://www.mntc.org/testimonies--students - happy searching to you! Furthermore - I'm not sure where you got your information from but did you not hear - since it sounds like you base all of your factual information on hear say I'm assuming you have BUT Troy's toxicology tests came back NEGATIVE for BOTH drugs and alcohol!!!

By: Dallas on 12/15/09
GQ, what is your fixation with this?? Enough already! Give it up! Let it go! Get into the Christmas spirit. Do something constructive today.

By: Indy on 12/15/09
I really wish GQ would stop with the crap that she is holier than the Almighty for there is only one God and we all know it sure isn't "GQ"!

By: Indy on 12/15/09
I pray that Troy's family will finally find peace after this trial is over. I will keep you in my thoughts & prayers. May God Bless You this holiday season!

By: I-am-who-I-am on 12/15/09
Thank you very much Indy. Apparently GQ doesn't have a job or anything else better to do then be a gossip queen. If you think you know it all and your here say crap go be a news writer just do it some where else. And when are you going to say a damn word about the Ortega's ? That's who's in the wrong here. I'd like to hear what you think about them. Leave my uncle out of this he's gone what more do you need to put him down for ?

By: Mindyourpeace on 12/15/09
Did you guys know that GQ lives down by the river in a van? Seriously! Seen her showering right by the damn. She uses the public library to comment on this site. She's super wierd. Does anybody know of a councelor for the weird?

PS - She's a hoarder, too....

By: secretsquirrel on 12/15/09
Um, is she parked close to any oak trees? I thought I saw an out of place nut below my tree house the other day...

By: quinn on 12/15/09
She can't be that much of a hoarder if she is living in a van.

secretsquirrl, thanks for sharing your poignant tale of mental illness, pedophillia and addiction. I think you are a shining example to us all during the holiday season. It sounds like you deserve a "special brownie" with nuts, of course.

By: secretsquirrel on 12/15/09
quinn - Ya never fail to brighten my day brother. Maybe it's one of those extended vans? LMAO Thanks for the brownies! My posts for the next 24 hours will be giggly and covered with Cheeto orange I am sure. LOL

By: I-am-who-I-am on 12/15/09
OMG you three have my gut just hurtin......lol As the old saying goes paybacks are a b...h I'm sure GQ and everyone else should be able to fill that word in ....lol

By: quinn on 12/15/09
All in a days work, I-am-who-I-am. Sorry for your family's loss.

By: Geneva_Queen on 12/15/09
Secretsquirrel,
Although humorous, your vast knowledge of low-life lingo leads me to believe you’ve really been there, and you probably still are. Too bad your fantasy-family won’t be able to help you out.

By: Geneva_Queen on 12/15/09
Thinking_Outloud,
>>Yep, that is the definition I was looking for when I read the first comment. Self-righteous.

That term works both ways when families of drug users think they’ve done no wrong.

By: Geneva_Queen on 12/15/09
krazykat,
Who’s “tory”?? Set the beer down and focus on the keyboard.

By: Geneva_Queen on 12/15/09
ridiculous,
>>Troy's toxicology tests came back NEGATIVE for BOTH drugs and alcohol!!!

Who said he was wasted at the time of him murder? I only stated that he was a drug user.

By: Geneva_Queen on 12/15/09
Dallas,
I was singing Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer earlier. The Christmas spirit is good this year.

By: Geneva_Queen on 12/15/09
Indy,
Maybe you should go back a week and read my posts on the Atheists article. There is no such thing as God, heaven, or hell.

By: Geneva_Queen on 12/15/09
I-am-who-I-am,
>>when are you going to say a damn word about the Ortega's? That's who's in the wrong here.

I have. Maybe you should go back a few days and read my posts in previous articles. But apparently you think your Uncle’s association with the Ortega’s had nothing to do with getting himself killed? Like I mentioned before, if he had never associated with them in the first place he would still be alive.

By: Geneva_Queen on 12/15/09
Mindyourpeace,
A Van? It was a cardboard box. Strange, when I found the box it had graffiti on the inside walls saying “Mindyourpeace was here”. It had a date along with it from two weeks ago. Did you just move out?

By: Geneva_Queen on 12/15/09
None the less, at least my lifestyle of not using drugs, alcohol, or tobacco has allowed the family business to succeed. My husband and I will be retiring in about 3 years. Not too bad for being just short of 40 years old. You can all spend your money on noisy motorcycles, beer, and biker rallies, all while working an hourly rate for life. The world does need dishwashers too!!

By: Indy on 12/15/09
G.Q. - No thanks. Your comments have been nothing but very rude and very opinionated. I don't care to re-read anything or read anything more from you. We all have our opinions, but there is also a time & place for it.

No offense, but if you don't believe in God, heaven or hell, that helps me understand why your seem to be such a cold, callus person and don't give a hoot who your hurting in the process. Family who reads the articles on this trial. Even if Mr. Ulrich's kids are reading this stuff, you just don't care.

You continue to try to be the center of attention and that is so sad. I feel very sorry for you.


To your comment above, you said "I was singing Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer earlier. The Christmas spirit is good this year".

Why would you be celebrating the holidays if you don't believe????

By: JJCHCA on 12/16/09
I think people need to comment on the article and not act like this is a chat site. It's an terrible that that happen to my dear friend froggy and all you people wanna do is get on here and ramble. Sad!!!

R.I.P Troy We miss you

By: Geneva_Queen on 12/16/09
Indy,
I never said I celecrate Christmas, I don't. I only enjoy the business Christmas shoppers bring.

By: I-am-who-I-am on 12/16/09
Hahaha gq u said celecrate instead of celebrate oh no froggy is starting his revenge on you.U better watch out 1 2 froggy is coming for you.3 4 better shut your door.5 6 grab your crucifix.7 8 gonna stay up late. 9 10 never sleep again.Ha ha ha Merry Christmas everyone

By: ridiculous on 12/16/09
GQ - I will pray for you tonight! I will pray that you find peace in whatever you're looking for and guidance to know what is right and wrong and when to keep your thoughts to yourself.
GOD Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot Change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference. Peace.

By: Indy on 12/16/09
JJCHCA- I, too, was close with Troy and still am very close to his family. I agree with you. This is supposed to be where friends, family and anyone else would like to express their condolences.

However, when someone is constantly talking about how much of a drug user Troy was and blah, blah, blah, we all feel the need to speak up since he cannot defend himself.

I am done talking with GQ as I will NOT feed into her negativity anymore. After all, its attention that she's looking for.

I wish you the very best during this holiday season. May you have safe travels and a wonderful New Year!

R.I.P. Troy You will always be a part of us.

By: Mindyourpeace on 12/16/09
I'd like to know what "family" business you own GQ. If you think that you are so wonderful and perfect, why don't you identify yourself? Oh, right, because you are probably lying thru your teeth. If you have the balls to say what you say, and think that you have the right, why not identify yourself? I sure would like to know your "family" business, because I wouldn't step foot near the door. Don't forget, WHAT COMES AROUND, GOES AROUND.

By: Geneva_Queen on 12/16/09
Mindyourpeace,
Identify myself on here for everyone including the Ortega's and Bermea's to see? Is it too late for the high school to ask for your diploma back?

As far as my business, it's not even located in this county so I'm not too concerned about you doing business there, or ever walking through the door.

By: Indy on 12/16/09
Karma is a terrible thing GQ. Just remember that.

By: Mindyourpeace on 12/17/09
Well then, if you don't have the guts to identify yourself, SHUT UP!

By: turkey123 on 12/17/09
Geneva_Queen - First,You said yourself you have Christmas spirit. Second, what the heck does you family business have anything to do with anything. Too bad that you have to actually work, if you truly had it figured out you wouldn't be. Think about sitting back on a beach somewhere sipping oj straight up and having someone else doing all the work for you. Not all the smart now are ya?

By: irlmmh2009 on 12/18/09
GQ you just corrected someone on their spelling...Hmmm I seem to recall you making a comment to someone when they corrected yours. I think the words you used were..."you can't think of anything to say so you jump on the grammar and spelling wagon" or something to that extent. Contradict yourself much? As far as someone knowing the drug and alcohol lingo and all the problems we have in the world because of it, I don't think you have to experience it to in order to see what it's done to people. Just turn the tv on. Or stay naieve if that's what you choose. All of us are giving her what she wants: attention. I pity you and I have nothing more to say to you about it. If we all do that maybe she'll shut her mouth. Her ignorance is not blissful anymore, it's a waste of time.